Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/17/1997 01:10 PM House RES

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 SB 19 am - REPEAL FED ENFORCEMENT DUTIES/F&G COMSNR                         
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN OGAN announced the first order of business was Senate             
 Bill No. 19 am, "An Act relating to enforcement of federal laws               
 relating to fish and game; and repealing the power and duty of the            
 commissioner of fish and game to assist in the enforcement of                 
 federal laws relating to fish and game."                                      
                                                                               
 Number 0059                                                                   
                                                                               
 JOSEPHINE HARDY, Legislative Secretary to Senator Bert Sharp, came            
 forward on behalf of the sponsor.                                             
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN OGAN asked whether Ms. Hardy was aware of the proposed            
 committee substitute.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 0116                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. HARDY explained that the committee substitute is the original             
 version of the bill.  It no longer adds new section AS 16.05.145              
 but simply repeals AS 16.05.050(1).  She said in light of                     
 aggressive federal actions to assume management of fish and game              
 over large areas of Alaska, in violation of the statehood compact,            
 the sponsor believes repealing AS 16.05.050(1) is prudent and in              
 the best interests of Alaskans.  She advised that Senator Sharp               
 fully supports the committee substitute and believes it should                
 satisfy concerns of the Department of Public Safety.                          
                                                                               
 Number 0252                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN asked whether there are contractual, or at           
 least understood, obligations for the state and federal governments           
 to mutually enforce regulations.                                              
                                                                               
 MS. HARDY responded that taking away the mandate will not do any              
 harm as far as working together in federal areas, and that it would           
 be beneficial to enforcing state regulation or laws.  She said                
 eliminating this mandate does not mean there will be no assistance            
 to the federal government in enforcing their laws.  This only                 
 pertains to when state and federal laws are in conflict.                      
                                                                               
 Number 0347                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN BILL HUDSON discussed AS 16.05.050, which states in               
 part:  "The commissioner has, but not by way of limitation, the               
 following powers and duties:  (1) to assist the United States Fish            
 and Wildlife Service in the enforcement of federal laws and                   
 regulations pertaining to fish and game."  He noted that the only             
 thing the bill would now do is eliminate subsection (1).  He asked            
 whether it is the sponsor's view that by removing the powers and              
 duties under subsection (1), the commissioner of the Department of            
 Fish and Game would be able to cooperate or work with the U.S. Fish           
 and Wildlife Service in other matters.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 0426                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. HARDY replied that the bill repeals a mandated duty, not a                
 power.  She said it simply gives discretion to the commissioner in            
 allowing the department to enter into agreements and enforcement              
 protocols they wish to enter into.  By repealing the mandate, it              
 removes the "hammer" if the department does not feel comfortable or           
 appropriate in going out and assisting.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 0481                                                                   
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN OGAN advised that Colonel Glass was now on                        
 teleconference and asked him to address the proposed committee                
 substitute.                                                                   
                                                                               
 JOHN GLASS, Colonel, Director, Division of Fish and Wildlife                  
 Protection, Department of Public Safety, testified via                        
 teleconference.  He said the proposed committee substitute removes            
 concerns he voiced at the earlier hearing.  Repeal of AS                      
 16.05.050(1) will have no effect on his division, which obtains               
 enforcement authority under Title 18, not Title 16.  Therefore, his           
 division will be able to continue the cooperative efforts they                
 currently enjoy with federal agencies.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 0591                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked whether enforcement is done by the                 
 Department of Public Safety rather than by the Department of Fish             
 and Game (ADF&G).                                                             
                                                                               
 COLONEL GLASS replied for the most part, yes.  His division is the            
 enforcement arm for fish and game regulations.  Although some                 
 people within the ADF&G do enforcement, it is extremely limited in            
 scope.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 0624                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN suggested by enacting this, nothing is really            
 being accomplished.  It removes a duty, but the duty is being done            
 by the Department of Public Safety rather than the ADF&G.                     
                                                                               
 COLONEL GLASS agreed for the most part.  However, he could not                
 speak for the ADF&G as to the exact numbers.                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN said that would certainly relieve one of his             
 big concerns.  The way the bill was written previously was                    
 unacceptable.  He had been concerned that if the state openly does            
 not do enforcement as agreed, the federal government could do                 
 likewise.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0773                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BEVERLY MASEK made a motion to adopt the committee             
 substitute, version 0-LS0173\E, Utermohle, 4/15/97, and to move it            
 from committee with individual recommendations and attached zero              
 fiscal note.                                                                  
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN OGAN asked if there was any objection.  There being               
 none, the committee substitute, 0-LS0173\E, was adopted and moved             
 as HCS SB 19(RES) from the House Resources Standing Committee.                

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